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Raging Blows gone, three trees rearranged: the talent hotfixes around launch

The trees Forever launched with are not quite the ones in the client of 2 November. Server hotfixes of 3 and 4 November, read out of the hotfix cache, remove Raging Blows from the Fury warrior, rearrange the Combat and Subtlety rogue, and move one Enhancement talent. Blizzard has not announced any of it.

This item is a rumor: the changes come from the hotfix cache that talentsforever.com lays over the client - datamining, not an announcement. No Blizzard note names them. They are consistent, though: each carries a hotfix date of 3 or 4 November, and none of them contradicts Blizzard's first hotfix list of 6 November.

Warrior

Raging Blows is gone from Fury. Reckless Swings takes its spot in row 4, Improved Whirlwind moves to the left edge of row 6, and Flurry one column to the right. Several Fury and Arms tooltips were rewritten on 3 November: Bloodthirst now deals 45% of attack power plus 30 and makes you 10% faster for ten seconds, and Enrage gives a 30% chance for 10% more physical damage after taking any damaging hit. On 4 November Defiance was tied to Defensive Stance with a shield.

Rogue

In Combat, Aggression and Weapon Expertise swap columns in row 4. Weapon Expertise now needs Precision and lowers the chance to be dodged or parried by 2%. Dual Wield Specialization moves to the left edge of row 5 and no longer needs Precision. In Subtlety, row 2 now reads Dirty Deeds, Camouflage, Improved Ambush, Dirty Tricks, and Elusiveness and Ghostly Strike swap in row 4. New arrows: Mutilate behind Venom, Adrenaline Rush behind Blade Flurry, Death Mark behind Preparation and Quick Getaway behind Dirty Tricks.

Shaman

Improved Lightning Shield moves one column to the left in Enhancement. Improved Ghost Wolf's tooltip now allows it indoors.

Clients since launch

Four live clients came after 2 November: 70755 on 3 November, 70790 on launch day, and 70840 and 70862 on 7 November. Only 70755 has been read. The other six classes keep their layouts.

What this changes here

The talent calculator now shows this state: 467 talents, one fewer than before. Shared build links keep working - moved talents take their points along, points on Raging Blows are lost. Our description of Dirty Deeds was wrong all along and carried the text of Dirty Tricks; it now says what the talent does. The build chronicle has a page for 70755.

Last checked November 8, 2026.